Osama Bin Laden: High-fiving his death

Some Americans took to the streets to celebrate when Osama bin Laden was dead. When I saw this party I was initially troubled. We should celebrate the death of someone? The Bible does not say to love your enemies? It is not good to celebrate the death of someone who lived to kill as many innocent Americans as possible? These issues have been discussed in university classrooms, Sunday school classes and sports bars across the Columbus Community.

It is a fallacy to compare the commemoration of Americans with the conclusion of the Middle East, when they were destroyed the twin towers in New York. The special operations team that claimed bin Laden was to destroy a terrorist, a man fanatically evil that not blinking an eye or even feel a twinge of guilt when he destroyed 3,000 innocent men, women and children. The Muslim fanatics and disillusioned celebrated the killing of innocent children. The Americans were celebrating the assassination of an evil terrorist.

Emerging church leader Brian McLaren expressed concern that our celebrations proved that were "simply turning more difficult in cycle of violence." He is hinting that we are no better than the terrorists and that the taking of life is weighed by the same laws of morality? This is not the case. We do not have stooped to the level of Islamic terrorists until we drop a bomb on the mosque of Mecca. Can he not be compared to a man who breaks into his house and kills his mother? This is pure evil. If you pick up a gun and defend his mother, killing the attacker are you and the murderer also guilty of breaking the moral code that protects the sanctity of life? It is not acceptable to take a lifetime to protect many innocent lives? Isn't that really what a just war is over?

St. Augustine of Hippo was the echoing Cicero of ancient Rome, when he taught the four elements of a just war (1):
The damage caused by the aggressor must be lasting, grave, and certain.
All possibilities should be explored of known to end the conflict before taking up arms.
The prospect of success should be a clear possibility and likely
The use of weapons should be limited to remove the wrong main target.

Taking out Osama bin Laden was an act of war fair. He was identified as the perpetrator and the master mind behind the fall of the twin towers. The damage caused by him were serious and lasting. He had almost a decade to turn himself in and face justice, thus saving the lives of hundreds who have died as a result of the 911. The mission had been planned well and, obviously, the prospect of success was promising and the assault was limited to composed of bin Laden.

Dennis Prager (2) deals with what appears to be a contradiction of Judeo-Christian teaching on our satisfaction over the death. There is a Talmudic teaching that reveals a God whose love for his creatures from rejoice when they are destroyed, "when the Egyptians were drowning in the sea of Reeds, the angels wanted to sing. But God said to them: ' the work of my hands are drowning in the sea and you want to sing? ' "Prager points out that God was reprimanding angels, not humans.

But the book of proverbs says, "when the wicked perish, there is joyful song." (Proverbs 11:10). Elsewhere we read in proverbs, "when your enemy falls, do not rejoice, and when he stumbles, let your heart not exult, for which the Lord sees and be unhappy ..." (Proverbs 35) It may sound like a contradiction, but Prager points out that "most truly evil is not our personal enemies." When Americans celebrate the death of an enemy really bad as Osama bin Laden are it doesn't actually revels in victory of good over evil. How can it be wrong?

There may be confusion on this issue because the majority of Americans have never experienced real bad. Corrie ten Boom survived Hitler's death camps. Many years later she was faced with one of the men who perpetrated by the death of millions, including some of her family and friends. Corrie described his struggle: "even when angry vengeful thoughts boiled through me, I saw the sin of them. Jesus Christ died for this man; I was going to ask for more? Lord Jesus, I prayed, forgive me and help me to forgive him. " Who knows if this man had repented of his evil? What is known is that he had stopped participating in these evil deeds. Corrie ten Boom took the high road, seeking forgiveness that originates just in the heart of Christ.

In contrast, Holocaust historian Saul Friedlander says a Jewish prisoner in Auschwitz called Arie Hassenberg. Arie saw after the Allied bombing in Monowitz and said, "to see a German killed; that is why we appreciate the bombing. " Ten Boom and Hassenberg experienced terrible evil in the hands of evil men. Corrie ten Boom pardoned a man who had stopped their bad practices. Hassenburg rejoiced at seeing a German killed because he embodies evil in mind that he was experiencing.

Osama bin Laden had not stopped his evil ways, or he had expressed any remorse. In fact, evidence gathered since the Wolfsschanze suggest that he was more active than ever in planning future attacks on American women and innocent children. To see a dead terrorist is why Americans enjoyed seeing the killing.
The theory of just war Catholic Church by Scott p. Richert
http://www.jewishjournal.com/dennis_prager/article/can_we_celebrate_the_death_of_evil_people_20110524/

Kevin Probst lives in Columbus, Georgia. He is an Associate Pastor of the Nazarene CrossPointe Church and teaches apologetics Calvary Christian School. He sends articles relating to theology, apologetics and Christian life. If you are interested in those ideas, visit his website at: http://www.kpprobst.blogspot.com and offer their opinions or join in the conversation.

Por que foi Osama Bin Laden realmente enterrado tão logo após sua morte?

Yesterday, I wrote an article stating that bury the body of Osama bin Laden out at sea was a terrible idea so soon after his death without first that show it to the media as proof of his death. So even if kept in accordance with Islamic law or practices have to bury a body out in the sea inside 12:0 am that actually would have given the United States has enough time to show the body to the media before disposing of it the way they eventually did.

However I find it odd that a body would be buried at sea so soon after the death. After all, I imagine that some Muslims do not live anywhere near a sea or ocean that would make it more difficult to do anything of the sort and much less within 12:0 am after death. Of course, taking account of the cost of such a burial, especially for those who live far from the ocean. However just thought to myself that perhaps, as is Muslim tradition. I currently not really knowing what it was that I had heard something about bodies having to be buried facing toward Mecca, but this again was something I wasn't really sure.

This morning however I woke up to see that someone had commented on my article that this was not the case with Islamic law. This person adding that if nothing bury a body out at sea was not allowed under Islamic law. At this point, I started wondering what the Islamic law was really that led me to search the internet for information to confirm that this person had told me. It was then that I discovered that in fact, according to Islamic law bury a body out in the sea is not the way to do it. I've read however that such a practice can be accepted, but only in extreme cases that the person may have died at sea which clearly was not what happened with respect to Osama bin Laden.

All that taking me to the question that many people seem to be wondering or at least on my site that is "why was Osama bin Laden really buried out in the sea so soon after his death and before his body could be shown in the media?". It was not, of course, in an attempt to keep with the Islamic law that even forbids this practice. This basically means that Americans neither understand completely wrong regarding Islamic tradition or perhaps that reason gave us was but a poor coverage up to hide the real cause of why Osama bin Laden's body was not shown to the media. In all this, I wonder and I see that I'm not alone in this; who gave the order for the body of Osama bin Laden to be disposed of in such a way?

Of course, a lot of this only takes the speculation that Osama bin Laden might be still alive or that he was not killed by American forces, but perhaps died before and this is just a way to make it seem that he was killed by American forces. After all, it's a strange story that he supposedly was living in a place in a large city so near a military installation and that the Government of Pakistan supposedly knew nothing about it.

I would also like to know how next year's presidential elections plays a role in all this, especially given that the Democrats don't really so well last year the medium-term elections. In all this I remember back in 92 when Abimael Guzmán was captured in Peru, he served the then Peruvian President; Fujimori as a platform on which he was elected to a second term in Office. This making me wonder if Obama uses this murder that I'm starting to question never took place as a way to get votes in the presidential election next year. This be just as Fujimori made in Peru with the capture of Abimael Guzmán. This also because the economic recovery that Obama spoke about hasn't really happened the way he promised would be back in 2008.

My name is Gianni Truvianni and I would like to thank those who put my article here and I hope that whoever reads it fun. I would also like to thank this website by respecting the rights of my author, many places have no such considerations; then it's good to see that this makes.

Kilroy Was Here: A Silent Response To Osama's Death

As a young chap growing up in northwestern Pennsylvania, I remember how we often got into scraps with other male rivals. Quarrels were sometimes settled at the school flag pole but for those who were concerned about avoiding the wrath of the principal, they settled their differences with fisticuffs on the weekends away from school property. The victor of such a contest would often return to school on Monday morning boasting of his participation in such a contest. His boasting only served to bring contempt from his peers. The one who returned bearing battle scars but who refused to discuss the event would invariably be admired by friend and foe alike.

In those days there was great admiration and respect for the silent warrior. We live in a different culture now. Professional athletes puff out their chests and beat on their pecs like savage gorillas after making a great play. A touchdown is always followed by some sort of "Look at how great I am" display in the end zone. Pride rules the day and humility is a lost virtue. Frankly, I admire the player who drops the ball in the end zone and walks off the field demonstrating a different attitude, "What I just did is what others expect me to do. It's what I get paid to do. The cooperative effort of the other ten men on this team enabled me to do this."

Our Navy Seal Team 6 just accomplished an amazing mission by outing Osama bin Laden. The differing attitudes displayed by our military and our politicians are astounding. The military warriors responsible for the victory may never be known. They are okay with that. "It's what we do. It's what we are expected to do." But our politicians mount their steeds and ride around the country beating their chests as if they deserve full credit for this great feat. All the pomp and posturing is quite disgusting. Hungering and maneuvering for a spotlight that should belong to another is juvenile and deplorable.

There is a great World War II mystery about someone named Kilroy. He is an elusive figure. His name was plastered everywhere from U.S. warships cruising in the Pacific Ocean to lonely oak trees in the forests of Germany. "Kilroy was here". The haunting omnipresence of Kilroy offered comfort to our own soldiers and a state of paranoia to our enemies.

When Americans were informed of the assassination of Osama bin Laden were we not give too much information? Why do we have to know that stealth helicopters were used? Why do we have to know the details of the operation, where Osama was shot, that his body was cleaned and dumped in the sea? Why do we have to know the location of his hideout and the squalor he lived in? Is it wise to tell the world that we have confiscated videos and computers from his home? All the information shared with us was also shared with our enemy.

What if President Obama had simply made a very brief, direct statement: "A special ops team has successfully killed Osama bin Laden. We would like to congratulate them for their bravery and their skill and for making our world a safer place. Thank you".

Why not fight terrorism with terrorism? The quiet warrior who came back from the weekend scraps was much more respected and feared than the braggadocios one. Limiting the knowledge we share with the enemy increases their fear and uncertainty. The enemy does not need to now how we conducted the operation, they don't need to know the procedures that were used to obtain information from the prisoners we had captured and they don't need to know we are now gleaning information from Osama's computers.

Rather than use the victory of a team of brave military personnel for our own political benefit, would it not be wiser to take the high road of silence? We could have inflicted greater frustration on our enemies and demanded a deeper respect had we answered them with silence? Would it not have been more unsettling for them had we told the press that Osama had been killed and there would be no further comment?

It's outrageous to think that a proper, Islamic burial might appease the anger of Muslims after we put a hole in Osama's face. Should we not have removed the body, taken valuable information from the compound and spray-painted the wall with "Kilroy was here"?

Kevin Probst lives in Columbus, Georgia. He is Associate Pastor of CrossPointe Nazarene Church and teaches Apologetics at Calvary Christian School. He submits articles pertaining to theology, apologetics and Christian living. If you have an interest in those ideas please visit his website at: http://www.kpprobst.blogspot.com and offer your opinions or join the conversation.

The Osama Kill: A New Era of Hi-Tech Death Squads

Em uma operação de noite espetacular U.S. helicópteros de caça voaram para matar Osama Bin Laden de Abottabad, Paquistão: Esta foi a maior história na semana passada e se você não está ciente de você provavelmente viver em uma caverna. Eu tenho não hesita em morte de Osama: ele era um assassino em massa de pessoas inocentes e morreu da mesma natureza da violência que ele próprio idealizado e perpetuado.

O que me pergunta aqui é a nova era de esquadrões da morte. Anteriormente, dois Estados-nação têm usado com sucesso esquadrões da morte para eliminar aqueles que eles considerados como pessoas que tinham prejudicado a seus cidadãos, representados uma ameaça à sua segurança, ou foram declaradas "killable" devido a seus pontos de vista sobre estas duas nações. Esta homenagem ao envio de esquadrões da morte em países estrangeiros, ironicamente, foi anteriormente compartilhada por Israel e a República Islâmica do Irão.

Enquanto não há muito escrito ou dito sobre esquadrões da morte israelitas, os esquadrões da morte Irani dos meados dos anos setenta levantaram algumas penugens no Ocidente. Treinados e enviaram para tirar os líderes fugitivos do regime do Xá, os esquadrões de morte iraniana especializados em matar todos aqueles considerados responsáveis pelo assassinato de iranianos durante o regime do Xá. As pessoas gostam de Daniel Pipes, um dos queridinhos do Neoconservadorismo americano, achei isso muito errado: tubos realmente torna o ponto principal de seu livro sobre Salamn Rushdie. Tubos, evidentemente, é silêncio sobre os esquadrões da morte israelitas.

Com a morte de Osama, entrámos agora numa fase altamente technologized de táticas de esquadrão da morte. Aqui está o que aconteceu: Estados Unidos implantado suas forças especiais para tirar um homem procurado durante o vôo ilegalmente do território de um seus Aliados mais próximos da região. A operação envolveu também a invasão de uma casa e, em seguida, é claro, a execução desta queria homem.

Como eu disse anteriormente, eu não me importo muito sobre a morte do Osam, mas este nova precedência de uma nação enviando um esquadrão da morte no território da outra conjuntos uma precedência perigosa. E uma vez que a ação foi tomada pelo governo dos EUA, é ainda mais perigoso como ele certamente vai ser emulado por outras nações. Assim, enquanto a maioria dos americanos alegrar-se sobre esta vitória, eles devem também ter em mente que, se este tipo de tática é normalizado, o mundo vai se tornar, pelo menos, um lugar interessante.

Existe agora uma possibilidade de que as empresas de segurança mercenário que fornecem esquadrões da morte para as corporações na África e na América do Sul poderiam também iniciar a licitação para os contratos com tais empreendimentos globais. A questão também é profundamente filosófica, especialmente sobre a própria natureza do moderno estado de exceção. Como nos ensinou Agamben, "o estado de exceção é a norma," assim esta nova fase da mata technologized agora tornaria uma norma. Não vejo nenhuma razão para que não se tornando assim: há imenso apoio popular para ele nos Estados Unidos. Como seria essa mudança no papel de Justiça reestruturar nossos desejos e expectativas de justiça própria? Esta instância torna conveniente para enviar nosso esquadrões da morte para tirar todos os declarou "killable" por um Estado-nação específico? Será privado dos cidadãos ou agentes não estatais, também usam os mesmos métodos para tirar suas "killable" outros?

Como um paquistanês, naturalmente, a minha preocupação é principalmente sobre o Paquistão. Parece que o exército do Paquistão e as agências de inteligência paquistanês precisam responder algumas questões muito sérias. E eles não são responsáveis perante o povo dos Estados Unidos e seu governo, mas seu próprio povo.

Uma pergunta simples: como poderia ter Osama vivido lo perto para a Academia militar de Paquistão, em uma casa fortemente protegida sem o ISI ou MI saber sobre ele? Há cinco anos?

Uma questão mais grave que o latão militar deve responder, preferencialmente em uma audiência pública da Assembleia nacional, é sobre o fracasso de seus sistemas de defesa aérea convencional em detectar o vôo de helicópteros de caça-nos sobre seu território? Eu não estou sugerindo que eles deveriam ter impedido uma greve em Osama, mas que devem ter, pelo menos, o detectou.

Dizemos em Punjabi, que se traduz muito crua em inglês, "não alegrar com a morte de seu inimigo,." para aqueles que você ama também vão morrer um dia Assim, não tenho qualquer razão para gritar de alegria com a morte de Osama: ele foi, como eu disse anteriormente, um terrorista desbotado responsável por assassinatos de milhares de seres humanos, muçulmanos e não muçulmanos. Eu poderia ter oferecido se ele havia morrido na obscuridade de insuficiência renal.

Também não estou preocupado muito sobre a morte de Osama, de alguma forma, mobilizando mais terroristas fundamentalistas no Paquistão: parece que os mulás e seus seguidores fanáticos estavam fazendo muito bem já e isso não é provável efeito muito suas taxas de "inscrição". A forma da morte de Osama, no entanto, deu-lhe o tipo de credencial póstumo que uma morte natural seria negou-lhe: para todos os efeitos práticos, aos olhos dos seus seguidores e simpatizantes, ele é um Shaheed. A longo prazo, isso seria criar e sustentar a mitologia de Bin Laden para os fundamentalistas muçulmanos. O techologized, Hi-Tech eliminação de Osama bin Laden, ao que parece, vai se tornar, na lógica das narrativas míticas, uma ferramenta didática muito bem para o Alqaeda e outros grupos terroristas.

Então, vamos começar a trabalhar em uma counternarrative de esperança e de vida ou esta narrativa mythologized da morte virá a assombrar-nos com o seu imenso poder simbólico e material.

(Fonte: http://www.freshwrites.net/2011/05/05/the-osama-kill-a-new-era-of-hi-tech-death-squads/)

Autor de construir Paquistão (Oxford UP), Dr. Masood Ashraf Raja é um Professor Assistente de literatura pós-colonial e editor do Pakistaniaat: A Journal of Pakistan Studies. Ele é também o editor fundador de fresco escreve (http://freshwrites.net), um site de Comunidade-temático por escrito.